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Window condensation calculator

A window is not one surface, it is three, and they run at three different temperatures. The middle of the pane is the warmest, the frame is colder, and the inch of glass around the spacer bar is colder still — which is exactly why the black mould appears in a neat line around the edge of the glass while the middle of the window stays perfectly clear. This page works out all three temperatures and tells you the highest indoor humidity you can run before each of them goes wrong.

The room and the weather
A living room in winter runs 40–55 % RH, a bedroom overnight 55–65 %, a kitchen or bathroom in use 70 % and above. Condensation on windows is a symptom of that number meeting a cold surface — not of the window being faulty.
The glazing
Don't know Ug? Work it out from the build-up with the glazing U-value calculator. Single glazing is about 5.7, old double 2.8, modern low-E argon 1.1, triple 0.6.
The spacer and the frame
fRsi is the coldest internal surface temperature written as a fraction of the inside-to-outside difference, and it comes from a thermal model of the actual section — the numbers here are typical figures for orienting yourself. Note the pattern: the spacer is almost always the coldest thing in the window.
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Centre of glass
— °C
Glazing edge
— °C
Frame
— °C
Room dew point
— °C

At what humidity do windows condense?

The indoor humidity at which water starts to form, with the room at 20 °C, for each outside temperature. Worked out by the calculator above: the centre of the glass from its Ug with Rsi 0.13, the edge and the frame from their temperature factor fRsi. Below the figure that surface stays dry; above it, it fogs.

Coldest surface−10 °C−5 °C0 °C5 °C10 °C
Single glazing, Ug 5.722 %29 %38 %49 %62 %
Old double glazing, Ug 2.849 %56 %63 %71 %80 %
Low-E double glazing, Ug 1.176 %80 %84 %87 %91 %
Triple glazing, Ug 0.686 %89 %91 %93 %95 %
Glass edge, aluminium spacer44 %51 %58 %67 %77 %
Glass edge, warm-edge spacer61 %66 %72 %78 %85 %
PVC-U frame56 %62 %68 %75 %83 %
Aluminium frame, thermal break51 %57 %64 %72 %80 %
Aluminium frame, no thermal break30 %37 %46 %56 %68 %

The glass is rarely where it starts. At 0 °C outside, modern low-E double glazing stays clear up to 84 % in the room, but its edge with an aluminium spacer gets wet at 58 %, and that is the line of water round the edge of the pane. A warm-edge spacer moves it to 72 %. Single glazing fogs at 38 %, which is why old windows run with water every winter morning.

Mould needs less than water: 80 % against the surface, so it starts at four-fifths of these figures. A blind or a curtain makes every row worse, because it keeps the room's warmth off the glass: set Rsi to 0.25 above and see.

How the three temperatures come out

centre of glass — from the U-value, because the glass is a plain surface θ_glass = θ_i − U_g · R_si · ( θ_i − θ_e ) edge and frame — from the temperature factor of the section θ_si = θ_e + f_Rsi · ( θ_i − θ_e ) then the two lines every surface is judged against dew point p_sat(θ_dew) = φ_i · p_sat(θ_i) // below this, water mould limit p_sat(θ_mould) = φ_i · p_sat(θ_i) / 0.80 // below this, mould and the number people actually want max room RH before water = 100 · p_sat(θ_si) / p_sat(θ_i) max room RH before mould = 80 · p_sat(θ_si) / p_sat(θ_i)

Two consequences fall out of that and they explain almost every complaint about double glazing.

First, the edge is not the glass. The centre of a modern pane is warm because the cavity insulates. Around the spacer bar the two panes are bridged by a strip of metal roughly 15 mm wide, and that strip short-circuits the whole cavity. Replace the aluminium with a warm-edge spacer and the glazing edge gains three degrees for a couple of euros per metre — far more temperature per euro than anything else you can do to a window.

Second, mould comes before water. A surface has to fall all the way to the dew point before anything visibly wets. Mould only needs 80 % humidity at the surface, which happens three or four degrees earlier. So the honest failure sequence is: nothing looks wrong, then the rebate goes black, then — much later — the glass runs.

Typical temperature factors

ComponentfRsiNote
Aluminium spacer0.55 – 0.62the coldest point of most windows
Warm-edge spacer, stainless0.68 – 0.72worth about 3 K at the edge
Warm-edge spacer, composite0.72 – 0.77
Timber frame0.70 – 0.75
PVC-U frame0.70 – 0.75
Aluminium, thermally broken0.60 – 0.70depends entirely on the break
Aluminium, no thermal break0.30 – 0.45will run with water most winters
Worked example you can check by hand

The window this page opens with: 20 °C and 50 % RH inside, 0 °C outside, Ug 1.1, aluminium spacer, PVC frame.

p_i = 0.50 × 2337 = 1168 Pa dew point = 9.3 °C mould line: p_sat = 1168/0.80 = 1461 Pa = 12.6 °C centre of glass 20 − 1.1 × 0.13 × 20 = 17.1 °C → 60 % at the surface, fine frame 0 + 0.70 × 20 = 14.0 °C → 73 %, marginal glazing edge 0 + 0.58 × 20 = 11.6 °C → 86 %, mould

The edge is 2.3 K above the dew point, so there is not a drop of water anywhere on the window — and it is a degree below the mould line, so the rebate will go black. Swap the aluminium spacer for a warm-edge one at f 0.70 and the edge rises to 14.0 °C, clear of the line. Or hold the room below 47 % RH, which nobody does.

What this page does not do

Read this. Use this to understand a window and to compare options, not to settle a dispute. A condensation claim needs measured indoor conditions over time and the manufacturer's own fRsi for the actual section.

Questions people ask

At what humidity do windows condense?
With the room at 20 °C and 0 °C outside: single glazing fogs from about 38 % indoor relative humidity, old double glazing from 63 %, low-E double glazing from 84 % and triple glazing from 91 %. The edge of the glass gets wet first: with an aluminium spacer at 58 %, with a warm-edge spacer at 72 %.
Why does condensation form around the edge of double glazing?
Because the spacer bar at the edge conducts heat out and makes the edge the coldest part of the glass. At 0 °C outside and 20 °C inside, a low-E double-glazed unit stays dry in the centre up to 84 % room humidity, but its edge with an aluminium spacer is wet from 58 %. A warm-edge spacer raises that to 72 %.